CVs – it’s academic

After a few contact details, what should you start with on your cv? 

I agree with everyone else that should you start with the most important part – i.e. what you are doing now.  So if you are a student looking for a job, you start with your academic background including your current studies; and if you are an experienced candidate, you start with your work experience, listing jobs from most recent to older.

Nearly all of the cvs that I have seen get this right, but only partially.  I see cvs of final year law undergraduates that list full details of grades in GCSEs, A-S levels and A-Levels, but fail to list anything about the 2 full years that they have spent on their degree, except its name.  Not because they are hiding bad results, but more because they don’t consider it interesting enough.

If you are studying and applying for a legal job, my view is that it is NOT a waste of paper, ink or time to list all exam results right from the start of your degree.  The law is an academic job, so many commercial firms are going to want to see that you have the intellectual brainpower to get started quickly.  They will want to see a candidate on course for:

 1. the top degree – in the UK a first,

2. an excellent degree – in the UK a high 2(i) or

3. a very good degree – in the UK a 2(i)

in that detailed order of preference.  So if you have a top mark – i.e. a first or equivalent in any exams, make that very clear.  And if you have some bad results, for a good reason and you think that you’ll end up with a good degree, it might be worth explaining.

The other aspect that I’m interested in is any electives that a candidate chooses – these need to be consistent with the work of the firms to which you are applying.  Someone who chooses 3rd year electives such as family or criminal lacks credibility applying to a large commercial firm. 

Another interesting choice is a candidate’s dissertation – great if that is relevant to a firm’s work somehow; and the other advantage of listing a bit of tempting detail on your cv is that you are likely to be asked about it in an interview.  One crucial skill of a lawyer is to be able to explain something in a clear way to a client, who knows less on that subject than their lawyer – and your dissertation is one of the only things that fits into that category in an interview situation.  In addition, if you enjoyed your dissertation, it is easier to be enthusiastic and confident when you describe it. 

So if you are applying for your first job in law, expand the detail of your university academic record.

Why do you want to be a lawyer?

This question is going to come up in any interview, so you can’t avoid it – perhaps not in those exact words – but by the end of your meeting, the person sitting on the other side of the table is going to want to be convinced as to whether or not you have the right motivation and potential to do the job.

In my group sessions, we explore this – I ask for people in the audience to give their own answer to that question in front of the group, and really appreciate it when somebody volunteers. I then ask others to give their comments.

It’s not an easy one to answer, because (let’s be honest) many people choose jobs for what are probably the wrong reasons – milk round visits, money only or perception of parents’ expectations. The reason that I chose law was probably not much more logical than any of those reasons – a really fun internship at Clifford Chance.

I have been asked a few times for tips on how to answer this one; but as I have said in a previous post https://legaljobtips.com/2012/09/21/practise-answering-those-questions-that-you-know-are-coming/, this isn’t a question that someone else can answer for you. I don’t think that any interviewer is expecting you to have a “calling” to law as some people do for charity work or medicine; but they do want a credible story. All I would say is that commercial law firms expect candidates to understand that the job is an academic and a commercial one, with a focus on clients.

Other than that, you should prepare your own well-practised credible answer – you are going to need it.
Do have a look through other tips in the archive folders on the left.

Practise answering those questions that you can’t predict

That title sounds strange, but I’ll try to explain what I mean.
Many interview questions are designed to make you think of an example story to demonstrate a particular competence. Then there might be follow up questions about how you dealt with the challenges along the way, and then perhaps in retrospect whether you’d have done anything differently.
So the point is that even though you can’t predict the specific question, it’s a good idea to think of a few examples of your most interesting professional experiences, and really analyse how you acted along the way – and then practise telling the story (see my previous post about rehearsing in front of friends or the mirror) – always bear in mind that these stories should demonstrate skills that are relevant to the role of being a lawyer.
And finally, yes, it’s OK to have made a mistake and describe it, as long as you have the self-awareness to realise that it was a mistake and show what you have learned.

Practise answering those questions that you can predict

There are a few questions that you can be quite sure will come up if you have a few interviews, such as:
Why do you want to be a lawyer?
Why this firm?
Tell me about yourself
In my coaching sessions, I make 3 points on this type of question:
1. I can’t answer these questions for candidates, because
2. they need to be answered in a sincere way with well practised answers; and
3. those answers should be concise.
Here I want to develop points 2 and 3. When I ask these (or any) questions, the worst answers are those that don’t seem to end – it is so frustrating when a candidate doesn’t stop talking.
Much better to rehearse answers to friends and in front of the mirror that last no more than 1 or 2 minutes, and then stop. After you have finished, be comfortable with a moment of silence while the interviewer digests your brilliant answer and moves to the next question.

CVs – any relevant skills / work experience?

One candidate came to me during 2011 with her cv and we reviewed the work experience section together – mainly 3 holiday jobs working in a shop, a restaurant and a lettings agency. I asked whether she thought that any of this was relevant experience for an application to be a trainee solicitor, and her answer was “not really”. So I asked her to describe the types of activities involved, which led onto a discussion of the skills that she had developed – by the end it was clear to us both that her experience was very relevant.
Let me explain – this candidate had:
1. worked in a mobile phone shop, which involved discussing with customers about their requirements and then advising them on the type of contract to take out
2. managed the process of getting a tenant to sign up to a tenancy, juggling the landlord, inventory, credit checks, deposits etc.
3. dealt with difficult customers in a busy restaurant, and taken responsibility for writing up procedures and training up new waiters and waitresses on procedures
So we rewrote the experience section of her cv under various headings such as “Stakeholder Management” “Client Advisory” and “Project / Document Management”.
Then I asked the question again: “Do you have any relevant experience for the role of trainee solicitor?” – Answer – “YES”.
So I take away from this that any holiday job can be helpful in developing skills that are relevant to the role of being a successful solicitor. It also gives a candidate the chance to show that they understand what skills are needed to do the job well – that’s important.
Finally, I’m not always that impressed by candidates who have not done any holiday jobs except legal internships. Don’t get me wrong, these legal internships are very useful – in fact that was how I landed an offer from a large City firm. It’s just that the better candidates have done other jobs as well and can talk about the positive transferable skills that are relevant to being a solicitor – it just needs a bit of creative thinking.

How I started doing career advice: tailor your cover letter

In my “About” page, I said that I receive a lot of speculative job applications, and notice a common theme, in many (but not all). And that is that the cover letters are too general, and some even “copy / paste” from general law firm applications; a cover letter that mentioned a motivation to work at “your law firm” didn’t go down well when the recipient (i.e. me) works in house in a company’s legal department.
And when I meet candidates, many say that they have applied for hundreds of jobs and that I was the only one to have replied – my conclusion is that this approach to job hunting can cause a vicious circle of sending out too many e-mails and letters in an unfocussed way – which is a waste of precious job-searching time and energy.
Anyway, why am I the only person that responds? Because I really enjoy meeting potential candidates and working with them to help improve their job search. I suppose that it was a gradual process: I started to notice common themes in these applications and I know what impresses me and what doesn’t. So I began to reply with a few tips on improving the quality of the cover letter; the next step was that I started to offer up to an hour of my time after working hours to review motivation, interview technique, cover letters and cvs. I now work with the Law Faculty at Reading University on careers coaching.